I said I would post this up for Andy. Basically he went to place his cam for the first, and as he retracted the lobes the 4 wires came free. Andy has personally contacted CAMP for an answer on this, so will post up anything new as and when I hear about it. My advice would be if you have one of these to contact CAMP directly. In addition I would be interested to hear from anyone who has had a similar problem to this. UKClimbing.com have said they will look into it. Personally when I looked at these cam's in Blacks I wasn't that impressed with them!